Comments on: Expat Americans living and working abroad: You are on the IRS radar

By: john petrino

john petrino — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 13:45:49 +0000

buy a house with the money,then let them try to seize your property in france or italy. anyway who would want to live in that paranoid police state called the US of nothing

By: ebeard

ebeard — Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:48:43 +0000

two pasports open the account using your other countries passport …thats it

By: SamSmith

SamSmith — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:08:10 +0000

If you move away from the states… never file… and never return to the US… (ever).. and never do any business with anyone associated with the US. How could they ever impose all these threats?

By: SamSmith

SamSmith — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:02:45 +0000

How can the the IRS FORCE anyone to pay taxes in the US from another country?

What if the US citizen also holds citizenship in another country… they can’t arrest, deport, or extradite another countries citizens for debt/tax due in the US.

Has this ever happened?

By: Rick

Rick — Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:24:59 +0000

I read on the internet that even if an American renounces his citizenship, the US government can still expect them to pay pay pay for the next ten years.
Today I received a letter from the IRS stating that I owe $10,170 for last year’s taxes. I am supposedly under a tax exempt clause for the first two years of working here. So, now I have to fight the IRS from foreign soil.
Question: if they want to put me into debtor’s prison in the “land of the free” for not paying taxes while I do not live in that country, how much will it cost them to try me, convict me, and imprison me? How many crooked politicians will give themselves a raise in the meantime? How many illegals will have reaped the benefits that I, a born and raised citizen/veteran of that country will never be qualified for?
Any good answers would be appreciated.

By: Hughe Stanford

Hughe Stanford — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:27:15 +0000

Written by a true zionist pig. Of course he fails to mention that all this information is required only from banks
with US business/branches. Any bank with no US connection will tell the IRS to piss off like it should.
The taxation of full-time non-residents is simply a joke. Freedom? I call it freedom to opt out of the system if one desires – no income earned in the US equals zero tax liability. Just like EVERY OTHER respectful country in the world. IRS claws in the pockets of citizens who are abroad full-time is a disgrace. These individuals should only be held responsible to the country where they live and work – period.

By: David

David — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:25:03 +0000

good job. I have had far too many inquiries from US citizens living overseas who think they only have to include US source income on their tax returns. They go to local advisors who are only familiar with the source income concept, whereas the US taxes citizens and residents on their worldwide income. When I tell them they should file amended US returns, I never hear from them again, they’re choosing to bury their heads in the sand. What they are doing is sitting on a ticking time bomb.

By: expatjohn

expatjohn — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 04:34:19 +0000

To be fair and set high emotions aside, although i agree with the principle that a government shouldn’t harass or tax a citizen living and working outside its country, the tax code specifically in the US gives many many exceptions and deductions to such a tax. Such as it doesn’t begin until after the first 80,000usd or equivalent is made. Even still there is so many additional tax exemptions that the 80,000 can easily be extended to 150,000usd per year. Now unless you are a super rich and making more than that you have nothing to worry about. But i do whole hardily agree that any government does not have the right to claim taxes on ANY income from someone living and working over seas just based on the fact of citizenship. I think that is bullshit and i see that law being challenged in the near future. Not to mention the waste of time of filing!

By: bill

bill — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:56:15 +0000

You can renounce your citizenship to the US.
You will be under IRS rules another 7 years and any holdings you take out of the states after your renunciation will be subject to the standard capital gains tax on full value of the asset.

Then you are not a citizen of the US and not subject to their jurisdiction.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:53:06 +0000

It’s funny that an illegal can come the states to work for many years and collect welfare, have there health care and pregnancies paid for, free breakfast and lunches while going to school, but never have to pay taxes and with the new “obamacare” bill never will have to pay taxes, but an American citizen moves away from the states and earns a living not asking for anything from the states still has to have this burden on there backs.
Who in the hell came up with this atrocity?. So, if an American leaves the states and does not want to ever go back can that person ever rid themselves of the U.S. government?. What if a person leaves solely because of there hatred of the government and how they have transformed a once great nation into a cesspool and does not want to be an American anymore,can they denounce there citizenship? I’m having a hard time believing that a person is branded for life by being born in the U.S., but theres lots of things these days I can’t believe are happening.

By: john petrino

john petrino — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:22:15 +0000

you work with them,that filthy zionist entity called the US of nothing.Is that not why name “required?”I would like to see the IRS come and take my home in Germany.I left there 10 years ago,I have a good life here(that ugly society called america never gave me anything)I will not pay one cent to their zionist war machine,you can put that in the bank.Myself and all my expariate american friends who live in europe will never submit to tyranny,like the likes of the zionist run IRS

By: Shell

Shell — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:10:53 +0000

This is really helpful information. Excellent article! Thank you!

By: Thomas

Thomas — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:07:10 +0000

If one has dual citizenship and has accounts in both countries, does this change anything? Also, in any case would taxes ordinarily be paid to one or the other country for interest/dividends on bank accounts — especially where there is a reciprocal agreement between the two countries?? Or, do some actually pay taxes to both nations?

By: coni uzelac

coni uzelac — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:00:55 +0000

for your info:
From: eu-digest@europehouse.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 06:57:40 -0400
Subject: [europehouse] EU capitulating on “anti-terror” finance information deal with US

The European parliament was poised Thursday to approve a bank data sharing scheme that the United States says is crucial to fight terrorism after securing safeguards to protect the privacy of Europeans.

The United States will again have access to the banking information from August 1 after European MPs, as expected, approve a new deal that was signed by Brussels and Washington last week. European lawmakers’ main concern was that personal information, including data from electronic bank payments, would be used by US authorities, held for too long and handed on to other governments (or to the private sector).

This agreement is a capitulation by the EU to US demands. The US argument of increased security risks if this agreement is not signed is a complete farce. Security experts claim the whole US security system is riddled with problems. These problems are far more dangerous than the lack of having EU citizen’s Privacy data. There also is no reciprocity clause in this new proposed agreement, whereby the EU could get similar data about US citizens. These kinds of agreements which directly affect EU citizens in reality require either a referendum in the EU or approval by each EU members parliament. The EU parliament should reject it regardless of what they have been told by Mr. Joe Bidden. This proposed agreement which is being sneaked into the EU parliament during its summer recess is not only a capitulation to US demands, but also a flagrant infringement on EU sovereign citizens privacy rights. It should be rejected.

EU-Digest

By: The Long Arms of Uncle Sam and His IRS

The Long Arms of Uncle Sam and His IRS — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:52:07 +0000

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